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		<title>Comment on Ain&#8217;t I A Woman? by Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always took the story as a dig toward class rather than sex. That, being a princess, she was used to such luxury and comfort that she&#039;d notice such thing while a member of a lower class would be used to sleep in much rougher conditions and not detect such minor discomfort.


I haven&#039;t read the tale in a while, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always took the story as a dig toward class rather than sex. That, being a princess, she was used to such luxury and comfort that she&#8217;d notice such thing while a member of a lower class would be used to sleep in much rougher conditions and not detect such minor discomfort.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the tale in a while, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cracking Open My World* by Wendy H</title>
		<link>http://fatoneinthemiddle.com/2010/11/12/cracking-open-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4320</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading this post well over a year since it was written. I tried like crazy to love my body when it seemed to balloon from around 120 lbs in 20 years to over 190, but I had internalized the message of fat discrimination. I hated shopping. The only things I enjoyed buying were shoes, because my &quot;curves&quot; were not nice ones. I had huge boobs, but my body is kind of straight up and down at any weight; and when I&#039;m heavy, my belly is so distended that jeans that fit around my waist are like clown pants down to my ankles. I&#039;d watch teeth whitening commercials on TV, and realize that no matter whether I had whiter teeth, a better haircut, applied makeup or got new clothes, nothing was going to make me feel pretty until I got down to a weight that was appropriate for my height, whatever that means. There are pretty plus size models, but that was not what I looked like. 

But I also like to eat - and I don&#039;t deal well with deprivation.

At our aunt&#039;s memorial service in Spring of 2011, I was talking with my cousin who was on Weight Watchers. I mentioned that I&#039;d tried WW, but that I couldn&#039;t stick with it. She told me it&#039;s all different now - there is no hunger involved - in fact, WW has set up a weight loss system measured in points in which you can eat all the fruit and (most) vegetables you want for zero points. There are weekly meetings and weigh ins, and a groovy little iPhone app, and sociability. I&#039;ve reconnected with a college friend and we talk about WW, trading helpful tips - and I have figured something out. The meeting leaders are motivational speakers, and some of them are better at it than others. The thing I heard a few months ago that has reverberated with me is this: Losing weight requires the will to change; people resist change because it&#039;s painful. When the pain of obesity is greater than the pain of making change, the will to change will emerge. I&#039;ve lost 40 lbs since June - pretty painlessly - and plan to lose 20 more.  I will look OK to myself at 135.

WW is not the only way to lose weight - a friend of a friend has lost 200 lbs on Low Carb - there lots of ways to skin a cat -- but is my self esteem better than it was six months ago? Yes. I don&#039;t think I discriminate against others who are bigger - I get it that some of us have genes that predispose us to efficiently store calories as fat, and that has nothing to do with whether the person is smart or good or loving. But I was discriminating against myself - and while losing weight will not solve all my problems, I will no longer flinch when I see pictures of myself that I label as unattractive.

I was lighter on my feet after losing the first five pounds - I have hit milestones that would be hard to understand for a person who has never gained weight: fitting into clothing that I had outgrown; regretting giving away cute clothes that I thought I&#039;d never be able to wear again; obsessing over lipstick instead of sighing because I thought it wouldn&#039;t improve my appearance. 

In one way I wish I could have embraced my fat self - considered myself lovable and sassy and smart and funny -- Heidi is a great role model. But that wasn&#039;t my experience. Instead I wanted to hide out at home and focus attention away from myself - let my words online represent me rather than my image in person; have my hard work be recognized because my self esteem didn&#039;t have anything else to prop it up.

I will be healthier, endure less pain in my ankles, knees and hips, and have greater self confidence. As I once heard, you can lose weight, but you can&#039;t turn back the clock. I&#039;m still old, but I&#039;m pretty sure there is nothing I can do about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading this post well over a year since it was written. I tried like crazy to love my body when it seemed to balloon from around 120 lbs in 20 years to over 190, but I had internalized the message of fat discrimination. I hated shopping. The only things I enjoyed buying were shoes, because my &#8220;curves&#8221; were not nice ones. I had huge boobs, but my body is kind of straight up and down at any weight; and when I&#8217;m heavy, my belly is so distended that jeans that fit around my waist are like clown pants down to my ankles. I&#8217;d watch teeth whitening commercials on TV, and realize that no matter whether I had whiter teeth, a better haircut, applied makeup or got new clothes, nothing was going to make me feel pretty until I got down to a weight that was appropriate for my height, whatever that means. There are pretty plus size models, but that was not what I looked like. </p>
<p>But I also like to eat &#8211; and I don&#8217;t deal well with deprivation.</p>
<p>At our aunt&#8217;s memorial service in Spring of 2011, I was talking with my cousin who was on Weight Watchers. I mentioned that I&#8217;d tried WW, but that I couldn&#8217;t stick with it. She told me it&#8217;s all different now &#8211; there is no hunger involved &#8211; in fact, WW has set up a weight loss system measured in points in which you can eat all the fruit and (most) vegetables you want for zero points. There are weekly meetings and weigh ins, and a groovy little iPhone app, and sociability. I&#8217;ve reconnected with a college friend and we talk about WW, trading helpful tips &#8211; and I have figured something out. The meeting leaders are motivational speakers, and some of them are better at it than others. The thing I heard a few months ago that has reverberated with me is this: Losing weight requires the will to change; people resist change because it&#8217;s painful. When the pain of obesity is greater than the pain of making change, the will to change will emerge. I&#8217;ve lost 40 lbs since June &#8211; pretty painlessly &#8211; and plan to lose 20 more.  I will look OK to myself at 135.</p>
<p>WW is not the only way to lose weight &#8211; a friend of a friend has lost 200 lbs on Low Carb &#8211; there lots of ways to skin a cat &#8212; but is my self esteem better than it was six months ago? Yes. I don&#8217;t think I discriminate against others who are bigger &#8211; I get it that some of us have genes that predispose us to efficiently store calories as fat, and that has nothing to do with whether the person is smart or good or loving. But I was discriminating against myself &#8211; and while losing weight will not solve all my problems, I will no longer flinch when I see pictures of myself that I label as unattractive.</p>
<p>I was lighter on my feet after losing the first five pounds &#8211; I have hit milestones that would be hard to understand for a person who has never gained weight: fitting into clothing that I had outgrown; regretting giving away cute clothes that I thought I&#8217;d never be able to wear again; obsessing over lipstick instead of sighing because I thought it wouldn&#8217;t improve my appearance. </p>
<p>In one way I wish I could have embraced my fat self &#8211; considered myself lovable and sassy and smart and funny &#8212; Heidi is a great role model. But that wasn&#8217;t my experience. Instead I wanted to hide out at home and focus attention away from myself &#8211; let my words online represent me rather than my image in person; have my hard work be recognized because my self esteem didn&#8217;t have anything else to prop it up.</p>
<p>I will be healthier, endure less pain in my ankles, knees and hips, and have greater self confidence. As I once heard, you can lose weight, but you can&#8217;t turn back the clock. I&#8217;m still old, but I&#8217;m pretty sure there is nothing I can do about that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NOT Touched by an Angel by Wendy H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depression runs in my family. I just thought feeling kind of sad all the time was normal. I have been suicidal, and have argued with people who just don&#039;t experience the sense of hopelessness, futility and unending sorrow through which I used to drag myself. They consider suicide to be cowardice, and were pretty mean about dismissing the reasons behind the actions of people who would rather die than go on in agony.  

After years of therapy that usually only gave me tools to deal with problem solving, but never actually lifted my spirits, my daughter grabbed me by the shoulders and explained that clinical depression is treatable, and that I had to get a prescription for antidepressants. She said, pointing at my chest, you can&#039;t even do the (therapeutic) work until the hole in your heart is closed. 

I&#039;m a firm believer in the use of antidepressants, as long as there is a series of sessions with a therapist to relearn how to live, because life is different when your brain works better. There are a few side effects of the drugs that are annoying, but I am eternally grateful for the moment that an HMO therapist, who was This Close to Retirement, happened to be the doctor on duty when I had my first session with drug treatment. Now I know that what I had been feeling for decades was not normal. I&#039;m not exactly sure that what I feel is what Really Normal feels like, but at least I have energy and optimism, and good feelings about the future. I still experience disappointment and sorrow, but they are appropriate to the situations that trigger them, not chronic states of being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depression runs in my family. I just thought feeling kind of sad all the time was normal. I have been suicidal, and have argued with people who just don&#8217;t experience the sense of hopelessness, futility and unending sorrow through which I used to drag myself. They consider suicide to be cowardice, and were pretty mean about dismissing the reasons behind the actions of people who would rather die than go on in agony.  </p>
<p>After years of therapy that usually only gave me tools to deal with problem solving, but never actually lifted my spirits, my daughter grabbed me by the shoulders and explained that clinical depression is treatable, and that I had to get a prescription for antidepressants. She said, pointing at my chest, you can&#8217;t even do the (therapeutic) work until the hole in your heart is closed. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a firm believer in the use of antidepressants, as long as there is a series of sessions with a therapist to relearn how to live, because life is different when your brain works better. There are a few side effects of the drugs that are annoying, but I am eternally grateful for the moment that an HMO therapist, who was This Close to Retirement, happened to be the doctor on duty when I had my first session with drug treatment. Now I know that what I had been feeling for decades was not normal. I&#8217;m not exactly sure that what I feel is what Really Normal feels like, but at least I have energy and optimism, and good feelings about the future. I still experience disappointment and sorrow, but they are appropriate to the situations that trigger them, not chronic states of being.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Started to Mock This . . . by Hellraisin</title>
		<link>http://fatoneinthemiddle.com/2010/08/26/i-started-to-mock-this/comment-page-1/#comment-4318</link>
		<dc:creator>Hellraisin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those things are bad-A.  They can hook you up with some mad Coke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those things are bad-A.  They can hook you up with some mad Coke.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whovians Everywhere Rejoice!!!!!!!!! by Don</title>
		<link>http://fatoneinthemiddle.com/2011/10/31/whovians-everywhere-rejoice/comment-page-1/#comment-4195</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!  I love this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant!  I love this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cracking Open My World* by On the Journey</title>
		<link>http://fatoneinthemiddle.com/2010/11/12/cracking-open-my-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4186</link>
		<dc:creator>On the Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 03:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just found your blog and this post, thus the lag time in commenting.  None of us should have to explain ourselves - you have betrayed no one, only been true to yourself.  It would be lovely to be AUTHENTICALLY immune to the pain that many of us feel living in a fat body in our culture as it is currently constructed.  But I sure don&#039;t  personally know anyone who is immune to it.  Wherever this journey has taken you, I hope you are at peace with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just found your blog and this post, thus the lag time in commenting.  None of us should have to explain ourselves &#8211; you have betrayed no one, only been true to yourself.  It would be lovely to be AUTHENTICALLY immune to the pain that many of us feel living in a fat body in our culture as it is currently constructed.  But I sure don&#8217;t  personally know anyone who is immune to it.  Wherever this journey has taken you, I hope you are at peace with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Favorite Video Ever by Angela</title>
		<link>http://fatoneinthemiddle.com/2011/10/01/my-favorite-video-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-4172</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This speaks to me in so many ways.  Thank you so much for putting it into words.
My husband doesn&#039;t truly get how upsetting some of his &quot;Doom and Gloom&quot; musings are to me.  At times I think he actually because it does bug me. 

I just thought that I was somehow unbalanced... Well maybe I am.  Whatever.  I am certainly touched by the Darkness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This speaks to me in so many ways.  Thank you so much for putting it into words.<br />
My husband doesn&#8217;t truly get how upsetting some of his &#8220;Doom and Gloom&#8221; musings are to me.  At times I think he actually because it does bug me. </p>
<p>I just thought that I was somehow unbalanced&#8230; Well maybe I am.  Whatever.  I am certainly touched by the Darkness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NOT Touched by an Angel by Vagrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vagrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup...as someone who&#039;s struggled with depression, it&#039;s a beast because you&#039;re often treated as someone with something profoundly &quot;wrong&quot; with them, or as someone who&#039;s deliberately choosing to be down. Like why the hell would I want to spend weeks at a time crying at the least provocation and wondering if I wanted to live? Yes, you have to find joy where you can. I had a great therapist who helped me accept being wired a certain way and how to work and deal with it; even friends were amazed at the difference. Sometimes it&#039;s all about accepting there&#039;s only so much one can do about the bad things in the world, and some things we just have to live with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup&#8230;as someone who&#8217;s struggled with depression, it&#8217;s a beast because you&#8217;re often treated as someone with something profoundly &#8220;wrong&#8221; with them, or as someone who&#8217;s deliberately choosing to be down. Like why the hell would I want to spend weeks at a time crying at the least provocation and wondering if I wanted to live? Yes, you have to find joy where you can. I had a great therapist who helped me accept being wired a certain way and how to work and deal with it; even friends were amazed at the difference. Sometimes it&#8217;s all about accepting there&#8217;s only so much one can do about the bad things in the world, and some things we just have to live with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NOT Touched by an Angel by Dani DeStef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani DeStef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.</description>
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		<title>Comment on NOT Touched by an Angel by Sasha Pixlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha Pixlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this. Spot on, me too, +1, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. Spot on, me too, +1, etc.</p>
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